2009/12/11

Best Lesbian Films of The Noughties ?

"The Noughties" 是指千禧年以來的十年(2000~2009).最近快到年底,許多文章開始討論起十起年最佳影片,用關鍵字:best films of The Noughties在google搜尋,就會出現各家的排行名單.

目前我還沒看到女同相關影片的排行,不曉得大家對十年來最佳女同影片的看法如何?請各位分享您的意見吧!(我們先有初步片單,再考慮要不要票選)

為了便於討論,我建議這次先單純地針對電影,電視劇另外討論.(播出二集以上的就算是電視劇,電視電影或是電視單元劇就籠統地算是電影吧)

女同主題佔影片的比重並不是考量的重點,處理的方式才是重點.還有,不必太在意女同角色是被描寫成好人還是壞人.

22 意見:

entangled 提到...

Am I first? :)

Here is my list of movies/TV films from 2000-2009 (+ my favorite; * OK):
+ If These Walls Could Talk 2 (2000) (TV)
+ Between Two Women (2000) (TV ) [please ignore the IMDB rating, except the first one]
* Combats de femme - Un amour de femme (2001) TV
* Goldfish Memory (2003)
+ Saving Face (2004)
+ Fremde Haut (2005) Unveiled
* Red Doors (2005)
+ Vier Minuten (2006) Four Minutes
+ Naissance des pieuvres (2007) Water Lilies
+ La Surprise (2007) TV
* Auf der anderen Seite (2007) The Edge of Heaven
+ Was am Ende zählt (2007) Nothing Else Matters
+ El niño pez (2009) The Fish Child

-- these two are not really about lesbian but worth the mention --
+ Chaos (2001)
* XXY (2007)

-- Not seen yet but my friend like them ---
Bobbie's Girl (2002) (TV)
Common Ground (2000) (TV)

-- My friend likes it but I don't --
Eulogy (2004)

What a coincidence. My favorite movies are 10 in total.

LT aka Xe 提到...

其實我發現我比較少看電影... lol
感覺這10年來片子還挺多的 而且喜劇多了很多 (還是因為這是個人偏好?) 另, 非英語的片也多了很多 (拿台灣來說, 跟90年代比起真像是突然爆增, 幾乎都是這10年的嘛)

DEBS (2004)
Tipping the Velvet (2002)
Fingersmith (2005)
(ps. Affinity沒看過不知道)
I can't think straight (2007)
The world unseen (2007)
Itty Bitty Titty Committee (2007)
Imagine me and you (2005)
Monster (2003)
Rent (2005)
Saving Face (2004)
----
If These Walls Could Talk 2 (2000)
Out at the Wedding (2007)
V for Vendetta (2006)
In her line of fire (2006)
Gray Matter (2006)
Girl Play (2004)
The Gymnast (2006)
Nina's Havenly Delights (2006)
Floored by Love (2005)

Sharon 提到...

-love:
8 femmes (2002)
imagine me and you (2005)
Vier Minuten (2006)
i can't think straight (2007)
saving face (2004)
if these walls could talk 2 (2000)
the world unseen (2007)
lion's den (2008)
the hours (2002)
the l word S1-pilot episod (2004)
nina's heavenly delights (2007)
anyone but me (2008)
-like:
the gymnast (2006)
lost and delirious (2001)
the fish child (2009)
loving annabelle (2006)
kissing jessica stein (2002)
La répétition (2001)
La tourneuse de pages (2006)
april's shower (2003)
goldfish memory (2003)
- don't like:
ghosted (2009)
je te mangerais (2009)

Orange 提到...

我想提醒一下,"影集"不在本次的範圍內.

Hsin 提到...

請問華老師的作品該如何歸類呢?!
因為Affinity只播一集輔合板大的規則
可另外兩部經典作都播了二集以上..
降子不是太可惜了嗎...?!
若是華老師的作品歸類在電視劇的話,
那我投下面這幾部一票~
Saving Face (2004)
I can't think straight (2007)
Imagine me and you (2005)
Gray Matter (2006)
Goldfish Memory (2003)
the world unseen (2007)
8 femmes (2002)

Lang 提到...

Les片年年有,好片并不多。我回顾了一下,往往是并非les为主的影片,把女人之间的感情表现得较好。如果要数新世纪以来的佳作,凭心而论,数不出十部——我的原则是宁缺勿滥。排名以时间为序:

1) 8 femmes (2002)
2) Saving Face (2004)
3) Vier Minuten (2006)
4) V for Vendetta (2006)
5) Auf der anderen Seite (2007)
6) Ha-Sodot (2007)

电视方面,拜华老师所赐,三部曲还是值得一赞的,美国方面ITWCT2也还不错。长剧里Bad Girls和TLW各有优点。其他剧集里偶尔出现的les线就不讨论了。

:) noughties, 不是nauthies,否则真naughty了...

entangled 提到...

I also have seen movies that I didn't mention but are in others' lists.

I have to add (BTW, my "OK" means good ones already)
* The Gymnast (2006)
* Ha-Sodot (2007) -- I was actually disappointed by this movie. Maybe it's because I had high hope for this. I cannot agree with the religion part.

Those with minor lesbian theme (& therefore cannot be my favorite "lesbian" movies)
* 8 femmes (2002)
* V for Vendetta (2006)
* The hours (2002)

However, I have to add that these two are very bad:
X Gray Matter (2006)
X I can't think straight (2007)

Lang 提到...

Add another X for me re "I can't think straight" :)

Lang 提到...

如果纪录片算的话,我想加上一部以色列纪录片

Et Sheaava Nafshi/Keep Not Silent (2004)

中文名《宁鸣不默》

Orange 提到...

真不好意思,我修正好了noughties。
再補充一點,這次是以劇情長片為主。
我個人選了十部,但不全是典型的女同影片,圈選的理由我晚點再說明:
The Edge of Heaven (2007)
Mulholland Dr. (2001)
V for Vendetta (2005)
Saving Face (2004)
The Fish Child (2009)
Four Minutes (2006)
Monster (2003)
Nathalie (2003)
Imagine Me and You (2005)
刺青(2007)

Sharon 提到...

yes, nathalie, i'd like to add it to my list.

comeundone 提到...

正想問版主心中的片單及選片原因。 :)
不知道是懷舊心態作崇還是新世紀以來的拉片素質真的有待加強,
我的片單也不到十部。
也有跟版主重覆的,
但要再加上 The Hours (2002)

Peiwy 提到...

這真是個有趣的排名, 而看來大家也都提供了很多很棒的選擇. 我在此僅補充2部我蠻喜歡而上面還沒人提過的作品:

Between two women(2000)
Producing Adults(2004)

只可惜Aimee and Jaguar是1999的片子, 要不然一定是我心中的榜首!

Hsin 提到...

對齁~忘了還有Nathalie耶~
加我一票!!!^^

P. bear 提到...

既然是初步片單,我的標準放得比較鬆,有打 * 是特別推薦的 : )

*If These Walls Could Talk 2 (2000)
*Better Than Chocolate (2000)
*Boys Don't Cry (2000)
*Mulholland Dr. (2001)
Treading Water (2001)
Kissing Jessica Stein (2002)
*lost & delirious (2002)
Prey for Rock & Roll (2003)
Goldfish Memory (2003)
The Monkey's Mask (2003)
watching you (2003)
*Monster (2003)
Intentions (2004)
Eulogy (2004)
*蝴蝶 (2004)
紅字 (2004)
Lapsia ja aikuisia (Producing Adults, 2004)
D.E.B.S. (2004)
Clara's Summer (2004)
My Summer Of Love (2004)
203040 (2004)
*Zero Degrees of Separation (2005) 紀錄片
*Fremde Haut (Unveiled, 2005)
*Saving Face (2005)
Girl Play (2005)
*Imagine Me and You (2005)
Gespenster (2005)
Four Minutes (2006)
The Black Dahlia (2006)
Loving Annabelle (2006)
*Nina's Heavenly Delights (2006)
*Red Doors (2006)
Gray Matters (2006)
*V for Vendetta (2006)
The Edge of Heaven (2007)
刺青 (2007)
Itty Bitty Titty Committee (2007)
*The Gymnast (2007)
Feast of Love (2007)
*Auf der anderen Seite (2007)
Naissance des pieuvres (2007)
Out At The Wedding (2007)
Ha-Sodot (2007)
World Unseen (2007)
*漂浪青春 (2008)
渺渺 (2008)
*I Can't Think Straight (2008)
*Fish Child (2009)

Orange 提到...

Fong用email表達屬意的top 10:
1)If These Walls Could Talk 2 (2000)
2)My summer of love (2004)
3)Vier Minuten (2006)
4)Lost and Delirious (2001)
5)Mulholland Dr. (2001)
6)Was am Ende zählt(2007)
7)Monster (2003)
8)Nathalie (2003)
9)You will be mine (2009)
10)Fremde Haut (2005)

entangled 提到...

@Peiwy:

"Between two women" is a good one. I mentioned this in the first post. :)

@comeundone:
"不知道是懷舊心態作崇還是新世紀以來的拉片素質真的有待加強"

I partially agree with this. There are two opposite trends in the lesbian-theme films. The bad ones are those centered on lesbians, giving you some hot sex scene but with a shallow plot.

Some, whose lesbian theme is blended with other topics, are quite good. These make me wish there're more lesbian plots in the movie.

Peiwy 提到...

@entangled
Sorry I missed it :)

雖然大家選片的標準愛好不同, 但藉此可以回顧一下過去10年的片單也不錯, 我自己就發現了幾部我沒看過貌似不錯的片子. 謝謝大家的推薦!

entangled 提到...

Though the poll has begun, I still add some into the list (of lesbian movies)

I also forgot to mention these:
+ Mulholland Dr.

Good but wouldn't want to review again:
My summer of love
Monster

BTW, no one mentions this?? (I am surprised)
"Les filles du botaniste" aka "The Chinese Botanist's Daughters" aka 植物學家的女兒

It's not that I like it though. :(

Lang 提到...

如果有十年最差Les片选,我一定提《植物学家的女儿》入围。

entangled 提到...

LOL

entangled 提到...

Let me add one more (because I just watched it):
Eloïse (2009) (Language: Catalan; in Spain)

The storyline is not linear. Especially the first few words said by the mother in the beginning. And you have to watch to nearly the end and then realize what she meant.

It has some nice moments between two girls. Hope this would be enough for you to try it. ;-)

 
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